Lapras' questions

[lapras]

Hi Eevee and Amphraos congrats for making the final 2!

Both of you played awesome games!

I do have some questions before I cast my vote however.

Eevee:
1) You told me you'd vote to save me when I was evicted. Why didn't you say that I was leaving? Why was I evicted?

2) Who was your true loyalties with?

3) Would you have chosen Mudkip over Amphraos had you won the final hoh why/why not?

Amphraos:
1) Your social game was totally lacking. It also seemed as if you didn't want to make any moves, and kind of floated to the end where you picked it up. I see that as an okay strategy. Can you explain to me why your lacking social game (vs Eevee) should win this game?

2) In the beginning of this game you pm'd me the following:

"I know we haven't talked yet but I am definitely up to working with anybody. I haven't really talked to anybody in the house much and as you can tell from the previous challenges I am not a physical challenge threat and not a social player. I can be your decoy person if you want to try to get out a stronger person in this game like Eevee did last time. So I would totally be ok if you put me up, but if I somehow miraculously win POV I would put myself off the block and be a vote in any direciton that you want me to, but I seriously doubt I would win it. Hope we can work together in this game, my goal is just to get jury, I have absolutely zero chances of winning this game."

Looking at this statement now do you disagree or agree with it and why?

Both of you:
1) For each juror choose a country that best represents them and why

2) Which two jurors deserve to be in the final 2 and why?

Good luck both of you!

[Ampharos]

Amphraos:
1) Your social game was totally lacking. It also seemed as if you didn't want to make any moves, and kind of floated to the end where you picked it up. I see that as an okay strategy. Can you explain to me why your lacking social game (vs Eevee) should win this game?

First I would like to say that I never really had the power to make any moves. When I won PoV for Round 3 it would have been stupid for me to use it on somebody unless they were my ally. Because I would have made an enemy with the HoH in the process when I was in a sort of self-preservation mode at that point in the game. If you read my diary room once the boards are open at the end I was willing to make bold moves if I had the power of HoH in the earlier stages. When I later actually had power in the game with winning the later HoH's and PoV's my mindset wasn't to make bold moves but to make strategic moves that would help me and Eevee out in the end.

Now onto your real question Lapras. While I lacked social game I made it all up in how I played my physical and strategic game. I mean when I sent the PM's to whoever was HoH at the time it was me being strategic and a little bit social. I think if I didn't send those PM's to Snorlax or Eevee then they would have never campaigned for me to stay and I would have been evicted in the pre-jury phase. Like I said in Phanpy's question I played a stronger second half than Eevee. While some people can say that I rode onto other people's coattails to get to the middle of this game it can easily be said that Eevee rode my coattails to get to the end. I do feel that if I wasn't Eevee's ally he probably would not have made it to the end of this game and got evicted a couple of rounds ago. I mean for the last 4 rounds I won one competition each round and winning competitions later in the game gives you a lot more power than winning competitions in the very beginning. So I do feel that I played a much stronger strategic and physical game than Eevee so that I why I think I should win this game over him.

2) In the beginning of this game you pm'd me the following:
"I know we haven't talked yet but I am definitely up to working with anybody. I haven't really talked to anybody in the house much and as you can tell from the previous challenges I am not a physical challenge threat and not a social player. I can be your decoy person if you want to try to get out a stronger person in this game like Eevee did last time. So I would totally be ok if you put me up, but if I somehow miraculously win POV I would put myself off the block and be a vote in any direciton that you want me to, but I seriously doubt I would win it. Hope we can work together in this game, my goal is just to get jury, I have absolutely zero chances of winning this game."

Looking at this statement now do you disagree or agree with it and why?


I would first like to say that when I wrote that PM to you which was after you won HoH for Round 3 but before the PoV competition that I did win just so the context of the message is known. I totally believed everything I said in that message when I wrote it. I didn't know about the dysfunction of the communication in the house that would allow me to skate through round after round up to the middle of the game let alone to the finals which I never thought at that time I would get to. This was my way of playing a social game and getting to tell you how you can use me and I won't go after you if you use me like this. I also wrote this before I won a single challenge and up to that point I was coming in near last in almost all of them.

Now looking onto it I wouldn't say I'm not a physical threat because at the end of the game I have won the most competitions out of everybody. I also don't think I have zero chance of winning now. I at least have a chance of winning even if it is small but it is definitely not zero. And me saying I haven't talked to many people in the house that is still true. So in the end I did end up being a big physical threat that has a greater than zero chance of winning but I did not have any real social bonds in this house.

Does that answer your question?

(I will answer the other questions when I have a little more time just wanted to get these out of the way while I had the time)

[lapras]

Amphraos thank you for your answers. Good luck!

[lapras]

"First I would like to say that I never really had the power to make any moves."

I disagree with this. When I approached you to save Turtwig over Eevee because Mudkip wanted Eevee to go home you refused to do it. You had the power but chose not to use it. I can see why you didn't do it, but saying you didn't have the power to do so isn't correct.

[Ampharos]

I guess we just disagree on what we consider to be "moves". Because in my mindset voting out Eevee at that point in the game would have been a stupid "move" for me. At that point in the game like I said earlier I switched from just surviving to the next round to trying to get to the end. And as you now know I was aligned with Eevee so there was no way I was going to evict my only ally in this game and be all alone. It would be like me asking you vote out an ally over someone you don't have any sort of bond with. I mean if Mudkip's actual plan was to get Eevee evicted that round he definitely nominated the wrong 2 people that round. It would have been smarter to have nominated Phanpy against Eevee to get him evicted (granted I am sure that Snorlax would have used the PoV on Phanpy if he was nominated, but you get my point). So really now you should be asking Mudkip if he really was planning to evict Eevee that round instead of Turtwig. So like I said if this opportunity came to me in the first half of the game I probably would have jumped on it but as this came somewhat late in the game it was not the right move for me at that time. So don't say I was afraid to make moves because I wasn't. I just chose to make the right moves at the right time to get me and Eevee to the finals.

[lapras]

Thank you. I understand why you didn't take it. But you had the power to change it up that's all.

[Eevee]

1) You told me you'd vote to save me when I was evicted. Why didn't you say that I was leaving? Why was I evicted?

I originally had planned on saving you, but Mudkip and Ampharos told me the week before you were planning/trying to save Turtwig. Also, I thought you were closer to Turtwig than myself. Also at this time, Mudkip and I were starting to not turn into enemies.

2) Who was your true loyalties with?

Again this changed through out the season.
In the beginning Turtwig - Lapras - Phanpy - myself controlled most of the numbers. (weeks 1 - 5)
Also, I had reached out to Butterfree/Ampharos as well since week 2. And at some point I was put in an alliance with Snorlax/Phanpy with talk as Ampharos also coming in. Basically I was aligned with many members of the house and since Butterfree and Ampharos didn't communicate much, I was able to hide this fact away from everyone.

When I was HoH it was very difficult putting up people and I was in total fear of the PoV being used. I was very grateful when Gyarados got out by the hands of Lapras because I needed him gone. I personally got Piplup and Infernape evicted because I knew I could be aligned with everyone and needed some people to be my victims. Plus, I didn't communicate with either of them.

After Turtwig/Lapras were voted out I grew stronger with Ampharos putting the most trust in him since we've been aligned since week 2, butterfree had dropped, I was the third wheel with Snorlax/Phanpy, and Mudkip and I were still frenemies.

3) Would you have chosen Mudkip over Amphraos had you won the final hoh why/why not?
This would have been a very tough decision. Seeing as I was aligned with both. I think after several agonizing hours I would pick Ampharos since we were aligned since week 2 and sometimes I didn't know if Mudkip and I were actually aligned. We said we were each other's F2 (my first stated F2 at week 6/7 [Ampharos later asked if we were a F2 around week 9]) and we bonded over Teen Wolf, but we kept nominating each other even though we were aligned which was very weird.

1) For each juror choose a country that best represents them and why?

Mew - Austria - A small country due to her short amount of time in the game, but a powerful enough country because she didn't go down without a fight. She came to me asking me for her vote and I thought she was being evicted unanimously but surprisingly she almost stayed!

Infernape - Fiji - a small country to show that he was very quite but tropical enough because Phanpy and him apparently had a lot of good conversations. He was capable of being social, just not with me.

Turtwig - Germany - A very strong player and was in power for only a short period of time. He kept almost winning and almost winning and for that he was seemed as a threat and sent to the jury house. Germany around world war 2 was in power and then ultimately lost the war.

Lapras - Italy - You seemed to be in the middle of something much bigger and there wasn't anything you could do. You were smart, you were social, and you were strong. You just sided mainly with Turtwig (Germany) and didn't have many other allies that you could fall upon. Italy was sided with Germany in world war 2, although it took them awhile to commit, and then ultimately lost as well.

Phanpy - Canada - the overly nice player. You also were social and made friends with everyone. You didn't win competitions and for that you didn't make hard decisions. If you did win, I feel like it would be very hard for you to nominate someone.

Snorlax - Australia - he's just so big! And with the whole pimpin' snorlax he definitely had style (like an aussie accent). He was fun to chat too and he won a few competitions.

Mudkip - Russia - Up until about week 6/7 I saw him as a huge threat, but then toward the later half of the game we became friends and allies. He was very strong, intelligent, and social. He just had his luck run out in the final passing steps.

2) Which two jurors deserve to be in the final 2 and why?
Lapras + Mudkip. They both played very strong competition/social games. Plus both are highly intellectual and I know could get to the end had not the wrong person won HoH for them.

[lapras]

Thanks Eevee

I was very grateful when Gyarados got out by the hands of Lapras

-Wasn't me